Karen, thanks so much for your references. I will get them. After going to the seminar on abuse I remembered a young woman I had contact with last fall. I saw this girl in the hospital and made a home visit plus several deserate calls from her. The situation was puzzeling in that this mother had everything going for her as far as breast feeding, lots of milk, no problems with nipples, agreable baby and the two just couldn't connect. Mom was very agitated whenever I talked with her, smoked lots and baby was fussy, but for all my reassurances that things really were going OK (and they were) she just couldn't continue with the BF. There was no father (that I could tell) in the picture. Six months later I got a call from our mental health center to talk with a young mother who was on suicide watch to come to our mothers support group, and guess who, it was this young woman. I never found out if abuse was part of the picture but when I look back and remember how many times I talked with this girl and her problems I sure wonder. Looking at the stats and this girls situation I would almost bet on it. Sorry this is long, but I wonder if we shouldn't be more aware of this problem. PS the girl and her never came back to our group but she seemed to be in good shape when she left the mental health center. Linda