Dr Roger Morse et al did quite a bit of very technical food technologist type work a few years back re: the use of honey in apple juices, etc, referring to cloudiness issues, etc. I've never bothered to keep a copy of the work, as it was not in my particular interest, but I've been asked to get ahold of it for a juice manufacturer. Can anyone on the list give me some of the references? Thanks very much. ------------------------------------- Nick Wallingford Bay of Plenty Polytechnic (East coast, N Island, New Zealand) Internet [log in to unmask] -------------------------------------