Jerry, you make a lot of sense:) There was honey along the edges of the hive, and I was confused to find bees in starvation formation (read ass up) in the middle of the frames. I couldn't figure out why the cluster had not moved; however, I now understand. It was a nuc hive and not terrifically big. As well, it was verrrrrrry cold this winter. Perhaps they didn't move to the honey because the cluster was not moving. Well darn! I am hoping that was the problem and not varroa dreadus. The other was a swarm hive that I should have taken my losses on in the fall and combined it with another and just didn't get to it. Thanks so much for the help. Cheers, Jane.