I cast my vote against splitting up the list. My research brings me into contact with hundreds of beekeepers and many researhers in academia and state and federal laboratories. Often, the cross-pollination of ideas and insights have lead to the break-throughs. A case in point is the evidence for the affect of oils in the hive on the ability of tracheal mites to locate new hosts. I for one have learned as much or more from the beekeepers as from the "scientists". Two lists already exist for the more technical discussions - Southwick's Social Insects and Entomol-L. The latter has over 500 members and it can get a bit clumsy. As for "heavy" traffic on BEE-L, there have only been two times when it really got going - the little fracus before Christmas by the electronic vandals, and this discussion about making a new list. Otherwise, BEE-L is quite, it could use a little more activity. Splitting off yet another list may dilute it out of existence. Thanks for the forum. Jerry J. Bromenshenk [log in to unmask] (University of Montana)