> I'll start collecting those "neonics are ok" papers > There is no such paper or study. Neonics are pesticides and they will harm bees depending on the dose. That is the correct approach and what Jim pointed out. Do the studies exceed the dose? Even that is not enough as pointed out by Randy and Pete. Bill Truesdell Bath, Maine *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html