John, What do ""cloudy", "spotted brown", or "black"" tubes mean or imply? You can look at the pictures in the Penn State manual, available here: http://nybeewellness.com/Field_Guide-_Penn_State.html Christina *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html