Is there not additional surfactant in the roundup in the tank? You are not spraying surfactant alone? I understand the theory, years ago, when roundup was $40/l, I did this. The 1l/acre dose to "stun" the quackgrass, let the hay establish. dave *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Guidelines for posting to BEE-L can be found at: http://honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm