> > >I am disappointed Randy. Sorry to hear, Stan. There is a strongly biased media blitz taking place of late against the neonicotinoid seed treatments. It has supplanted any sort of rational discussion. My point about the PANNA document is that there are anti-pesticide sorts who know nothing about bees, but are using bees as poster children for their fundraising. The fact that the authors didn't even notice that their main photo showed a bee suffering from DWV is an example what can happen when non beekeepers write about pesticide problems for honey bees. Similar was the recent NBC segment on bee pesticide kills, which showed crawling bees supposedly dying from clothianidin dust. Anyone could clearly see that there was none of the twitching indicative of neonicontinoid poisoning. Such lethargic crawlers are indicative of a heavy infestation by nosema, not from neonic poisoning! I am interested in actually determining which pesticides (or adjuvants) are causing harm to bees, as is the EPA. The current kangaroo court in the media is a total distortion of the facts, and isn't helping. This frustrates me. -- Randy Oliver Grass Valley, CA www.ScientificBeekeeping.com *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Guidelines for posting to BEE-L can be found at: http://honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm