Joe said: >never to fall in love with a diagnosis, especially the first diagnosis. You must have missed the line "5 years later" If you check archives, oct06 you can see the first evidence that I saw of ccd. Not recognized at that point. >especially few ambiguous symptoms. No bees, no corpses is ambiguous? (& not just 1 hive) >I am unaware that a treatment for CCD exists My secret patented snake oil (/joke) check archives, last year, keyword VC I suspect that most of these absconds happened in October >but might be better characterized as a rapid dwindling. A rose by any other name...... They made about 1/2 the normal amount of honey that I would have expected, but also I don't think last year was an especially good year for surplus. (the hives that did not abscond did not fill 3 supers) After I have questioned myself more that anyone here, to continue (questioning) is neurotic. You should count yourself lucky that you are only reading about this dave *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Guidelines for posting to BEE-L can be found at: http://honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm