>
> > Also, unlike the earlier chemicals you listed, they are systemic, which
> means that WE end up eating them.


Chris, before this spirals into wild speculation, remember that neonics
were specifically designed to be nearly harmless to humans.


> >The experiment showed that, in conjunction with antibiotics, mice are
> harmed by neonics.


Actually, the paper said nothing of the sort.  It said only that "OTC,
coumaphos and τ-fluvalinate are all known to interact with mammalian p-gp."
 The paper said nothing about neonics and mice.  This sort of loose reading
of a study can lead to others being misinformed.  This is an INFORMED
discussion group.

Chris, if read the paper carefully, you might note the concentrations of
insecticides that were fed to the bees--imidacloprid at 5 and 50 ug/uL.
 That equals 5,000,000 - 50,000,000 ppb!  Typical field doses are in the
range of less than 10 ppb, so I'm not sure that this study has anything to
do with real life!  I will ask the author for his rationale of using such
extremely high doses.

Randy Oliver
Grass Valley, CA
www.ScientificBeekeeping.com

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