Here is another twist for alfalfa. At times some batches of alfalfa and white clover produce red urine in rabbits. At other times it does not. I do not know if this has anything to do with red honey. Our soils are carbonate, so much so that pouring vinegar or any other acid on the soils causes them to foam. It takes several gallons of vinegar to nutrilize one square foot of soil. Soil PH runs between 8.0 and 8.5. Dave South East Idaho *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Guidelines for posting to BEE-L can be found at: http://honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm