However, > in my travels in California and Nevada I have found > organic farms commonly have the same industrialized, > weedless appearance of conventional farms: Interesting as weeds around the farm are hard to handle with mechanical control. Herbicides are easier and cheaper than paying for control with a weed eater. My problem with herbicides for farm cosmetic weed control is the need for repeated applications driving up costs. A common misconception at farmers markets is that all Amish or Mennonite farms are organic or use organic methods. In the KC area the Amish & Mennonite farmers use common pesticides and herbicides. In fact the largest supplier is Amish owned. bob *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Guidelines for posting to BEE-L can be found at: http://honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm