>Some of the island beekeepers feel it was CCD as their hives were empty. This is Brian's point. Empty hives are typical of mite/virus collapse, and should not be considered as CCD losses without more information. Randy Oliver *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Access BEE-L directly at: http://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A0=BEE-L