>Why would a queen be laying if there are no foragers to provide pollen and nectar? Did you actually read my post? Please read again Maybe it's your russians, my bees usualy quit Oct 10-15. This is just in time for the last brood to have 1st cleansing flight It is not a weak hive, got 10+ frames brood dave *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Access BEE-L directly at: http://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A0=BEE-L