Bad form to reply to self, correction instead Not 12 y ago but at the start of this whole adventure That yard - Uxbridge (5mi NE) had no electric fence for 10y Spr/06 the bears got that far south. Got half the yard Rather than do splits I trucked two lots of bees there from home The second lot clearly had a sick hive --ccd-- the transport probably didn't help. This Aug/06 Queens quit laying mid sept By Dec/06 probably 3/4 had absconded By feb/07 all were dead 10/10 Killed the neighbours bees too (3/4mi) 10/11 Fall/06 in Ont was VERY mild - this claimed the cause dave *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Access BEE-L directly at: http://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A0=BEE-L