It stuck me that if 4.9 really works, there should be a booming business in 4.9 packages. That eliminates the regression phase and you should get all the benefits immediately since someone else has done it right. Maybe there are some large sellers out there, but my google resulted in one small guy on Beesource (second year of selling) and another in Ohio that turned out to be out of business. What was interesting was the beesource seller's bees were from a mixed stock that included Russian, so we are back to the basic question of is it the foundation or the bee? In any case, if 4.9 works, all the big sellers should be able to make a mint selling 4.9 packages. Bill Truesdell Bath, Maine *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html