[Accidentally hit "send" too soon.] Thank you for your clarity of vision, Linda Smith. It makes perfect sense to me to just avoid any talk of "rights" and work on convincing the mom instead through compassion to give her knowledge that may shift her position. After all, as Dawn Kersula pointed out today (on another topic), haven't we all experienced just this shift through discussions and learning on Lactnet? From: Dawn Kersula <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Changing paradigms... I'm constantly amazed at how our conversations on Lactnet change my ways of thinking about things. I've been talking a lot in presentations lately about skin to skin, and more & more it seems to me that the colonization of a newborn with the microbiology of his own natural habitat (his moms) is so, so important - why would I want to colonize him with my stuff or the hospital stuff? Thank you, Lactnet webmistresses, for making this all possible. Arly Helm, MS, IBCLC *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome