What I want to know is - WHY we think bottles that LOOK like breasts actually work like breasts? And WHY nipples on bottles that can't flex to the normal length a mom's nipple does are considered ideal? -----Original Message----- From: Lactation Information and Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Susan Burger Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Most greens are gulp it down and choke bottles Dear all: Here in Manhattan, many parents have bought the so-called GREEN bottles. I have to say that most of these are very rapid flow and babies choke on them. This include Green to Go, Born Free, and Adiri --- which sometimes is too slow and lately too fast. I think I'm violating some lactnet principal, in naming names, but I am tired of babies squishing the heck out of mom's nipples and getting frustrated because they got used to the rapid flow bottles. Despite my best educational efforts I am seeing more and more clients who are feeding their babies four times a day thinking that a baby and milk supply will be just fine only to have it all fall apart. The pediatrician to the stars is becoming more and more extreme telling mothers of 6 week olds to shut the door on their babies from 8 pm to 8 am when the moment their babies turn 8 weeks old. I guess there has been a trend towards form over function that is getting to me. Best, Susan Burger, MHS, PhD, IBCLC *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome