Peter: You miss my point All I was saying is "not Carniolan" and a theory why I agree central Russian bees are melifera Again, following the glaciers (at quite a distance and time) I had heard that precise mix of genes for sibera before too At least 2 yrs ago??? dave **************************************************** * General Information About BEE-L is available at: * * http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/default.htm * ****************************************************