I think there might be in Chile where Juanse lives. It must be spring there. Thanks Chris, efectively it is spring over here. I think the problem with SEVIN is the Bayer eufemism when registering an insecticide as a blossom thinning product. In fact a per label indication over here, SEVIN should be applied at "petal fall" which means that there is still some flowers left. I guesstimate around 10% to 20%. Apples blossom are very atractive to bees, pollen is very protein rich and nectar is thick. Till now, even after four attemps to receive an answer back from Mr Bayer I do not have a clue about the technical reason behind using an insecticide for blossom thinning.I would expect an hormone not an insecticide.Without further data I can only guess that the thinning mechanism is by killing all pollinator around ;) -- Juanse Barros J. APIZUR S.A. Carrera 695 Gorbea - CHILE +56-45-271693 08-3613310 http://apiaraucania.blogspot.com/ [log in to unmask] **************************************************** * General Information About BEE-L is available at: * * http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/default.htm * ****************************************************