Yes, there are a pair from the Van Sweringen site, one with it's mount or should I say "vices" in place. They can be seen at http://www.stmaryscity.org/VirtualExhbit/ordinary.htm Until the advent of round, free-blown bottles after about 1650, case bottles are the only type of glass bottles we find. They continue in use for quite a while and are particularly fit for ship board use. Silas -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Mary C. Beaudry" <[log in to unmask]> > Oh, and I am pretty sure one with screw threads and/or cap was found at Van > Swearingen site at St Mary's City?? Is that right Silas? > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Mary C. Beaudry wrote: > > > Bly, > > > > If none of the pewter screw caps for case bottles have been found in > > English contexts, are you positing that the abundance of them at Jamestown > > had something to do with the way the project was supplied/outfitted (e.g., > > purchases from Amsterdam warehouses or the like?)? > > > > Mary > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Bly Straube wrote: > > > >> Mo, > >> Those pewter screw caps (called 'vices' in the C17) are a > >> Dutch phenomenon. Hugh Willmott (Early post-medieval vessel > >> glass in England c. 1500-1670, CBA Research Report 132, > >> 2002) claims that not one has been found in England. We have > >> lots of them from our excavations of James Fort, established > >> by the English in 1607 in Jamestown, Virginia. > >> Bly > >> > >> Beverly A. (Bly) Straube, FSA > >> Senior Archaeological Curator > >> Jamestown Rediscovery > >> 1365 Colonial Parkway > >> Jamestown, VA 23081 > >> 757 229-4997 x103 > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On > >> Behalf Of Maureen Brown > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:52 PM > >> To: [log in to unmask] > >> Subject: Case Bottle & Pewter Screw Cap Refs? > >> > >> Hello everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> Since my companion, Marybeth, had such a great response to > >> her request > >> for faience references from everyone, I thought I'd make a > >> small request > >> to the group as well. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'm researching glass from the La Belle shipwreck, which was > >> one of the > >> La Salle's, the French explorer's vessels that wrecked on > >> the Texas > >> coast in 1686. The majority of glass recovered includes > >> three sizes of > >> case bottles and associated pewter screw caps, similar to > >> the ones found > >> on several VOC (Dutch East Indiamen) merchant vessels. In > >> addition, > >> there were a few onion bottles and hour glasses/sand clocks > >> found as > >> well. I'm interested in references, information, and/or > >> comparative > >> underwater and terrestrial sites that have found 17th - 18th > >> century > >> case bottles and/or pewter screw caps/tops. > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks a bunch and hope everyone is cooler than us in > >> Austin! > >> > >> Mo > >> > >> > >> > >> Maureen Brown > >> > >> Collections Manager/Archeologist III > >> > >> Archeology Division > >> > >> Texas Historical Commission > >> > >> P.O. Box 12276 > >> > >> Austin, TX 78701-2276 > >> > >> (512) 927-7876 office > >> > >> (512) 927-9797 fax > >> > >> [log in to unmask] > >> > > > > > > > > > >