I am an experimental filmmaker and painter and find there are similar issues in the reception of my work. Those who have an agenda that film should be a certain way or beautiful to their way of seeing will not enjoy them wheareas those who are more open can see the articulation of abstract film that I am making. Similarly, in music if the listener has an agenda that music should be tonal or beautiful to their ears will miss much of contemporary music which is about articulation and expressiveness not necessarily beauty per se. I find Schoenberg, Berg, Webern, Feldman, Cage and many others to be beautiful in their own way but above all to be seeking to expand the boundaries of what music can be. Peter Herwitz *********************************************** The CLASSICAL mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's HDMail High Deliverability Mailer for reliable, lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html