In a message dated 2/26/2008 11:14:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Waking in the night for confort/contact is normal behaviour at this age and a lot older too, though I appreciate not all mothers in our western culture want to accept it :( >>>>> yes, and, as you say, older, ......2.5-3yrs could be the "norm" in general, and as you say many of us may not understand or want to accept this norm ( like me with first baby) ....Cindy's mom may have heard some other moms talk about their baby sleeping 8, 10, 12 hrs/night which may be the norm for a particular baby. along with the optimal co-sleeping, or maybe close sleeping, suggestion, Cindy could gently suggest the option of the exhausted mom sleeping some during the day with baby, ...revise her expectations in the area of sleep and daytime activities (is mom over-doing it during the day? ...how many hours is the baby's night-time sleep expectation?) ...have someone else, like husband/partner, do a quiet, dimly lit bottle feeding of *just enough* pumped milk during night, ....attend a breastfeeding moms group Debbie Tobin RN BSN IBCLC LCCE Fairfax County, Virginia suburbs outside the Washington DC beltway **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome