Did these mothers have epidurals during labour? I've seen similar behaviours at times with babies whose mothers have had epidurals, especially when it was administered for many hours. The baby will latch on nicely but then doesn't seem to know what to do. Just sits there with the nipple in his mouth. Obviously this doesn't happen with all post-epidural babies and I think your comment on the anatomy is interesting. I wonder if it's the combination - the epidural somehow reduces the sucking reflex in general, but then the anatomy you describe means the baby isn't gettting the breast/palate contact he needs to signal "suck now, get milk!" Sometimes I've found using a nipple shield helps these mothers, I'm assuming because it gives the baby more pressure inside his mouth to stimulate sucking. Teresa *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome