Bob, Thanks for your helpful coments. I listen carefully when you and R. Oliver and others speak. Although i may go through this forum w/a weedeater at times, I have come across some choice nuggets. I have only been keeping bees about 7 years now....I dont know how far back the Walter kelly sryrp feeder dates. I will repeat that the help I have recieved from this forum and some in the local beekeepers have knocked years off the learning curve. For that I am grateful. Best to all John ****************************************************** * Full guidelines for BEE-L posting are at: * * http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm * ******************************************************