I have found that stirring sugar into hot water to make a 2:1 mixture is torture when done manually. When I have used a drill and a drywall mixer it is better, but I always get some plastic from the bottom of the pail. A friend uses an extractor. Puts in sugar and hot water and turns on high! He swears by it...but I haven't tried it. Lloyd -- Lloyd Spear Owner Ross Rounds, Inc. Manufacture of equipment for round comb honey sections, Sundance Pollen Traps, and producer of Sundance custom labels. Contact your dealer or www.RossRounds.com ****************************************************** * Full guidelines for BEE-L posting are at: * * http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm * ******************************************************