Just to thank you all for the help and contacts that flooded in. Mother phoned ABA and left a message - I've not heard back on how that tracked. She got much better results from her breasts for switching to hand expression in hot showers, and has managed some direct nursing in the past 24 hours. Subsequently, she is feeling more confident, less of a failure, and is now researching the clipping issues prior to seeing her paed. on Monday. I should say that I didn't make a statement very clear in my post - and apologies for that. When I said the mother was violently opposed to formula, I wasn't suggesting she was withholding formula. She was giving the top ups as directed, but was heartbroken to do so, and felt she had failed utterly as a mother. This was also why I questioned the domperidone at 4 days - for how can anyone know if a mother has low supply at four days, when she has a tongue tied baby and is not responding well to an electric pump? The message this mother had received (regardless of what was given her) is that she had no to low supply, and therefore her subsequent feelings of complete failure. She complied with the formula - but cried every time. My immediate concern was the threat to her supply from lack of proper stimulation from either baby _or_ pump. Mother was very well informed, had taken baby back to birth centre when nappy count had dropped, and baby had only slight signs of dehydration when assessed by paed and formula top up advice was given. Again, apologies for those who read it that she was not giving the top ups. And interestingly, it turns out a surgeon in Perth is using a laser to release tongue tie. Perhaps we should compile a laser list! I've asked the mother to review the first ten hours post partum, and to look at all staff interaction she had, to see if she had been given breastfeeding support but had someone missed the cue or dismissed the staff member out of hand. I've also stated that if she genuinely had no breastfeeding support in the first hour, never mind the first ten hours, she needs to talk to some at the unit about this when she feels able to do so. Morgan Gallagher Online Lactaneer Just nursed her 30 month old through a week long bout of rota virus and needs considerably more sleep than she's had for said week. And no, I didn't think it was possible for projectile poo to have that sort of stench.... or for that amount of it to explode out of such a tiny bottom for quite such a long time. Whoop whoop for Mama's milk 'tho... no hospital admission... but Mama could do with a week in bed. *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html Mail all commands to [log in to unmask] To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or [log in to unmask]) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet or ([log in to unmask]) To reach list owners: [log in to unmask]