What about the SO2 Is this not pertinant? >Since acetic is hard to find I wonder >if SO2 would disenfect? Would certainly be cheaper So the nucs procede as they should, the 5th was only 1d following No apperant mortality, appear recovered, weak A few are capped now, I imagine I'll see more tomorrow. I'll certainly watch at months end There is one interesting set of observations They say crow is best et warm, I certanly have humbled myself Killing _stupidly_ two Q's The 1st was normal, 2 q in 1 hive (damn invisable Russians) The other was unusual several ways The hive was a loss this spring, the cluster was OK but the Q was dead, not a suprize, she had a red dot So I swapped a shallow frame with her daugther and the vigin emerged ~apr3. This by far the earlist I have ever had a Q. I doubted she could get bred 1st drones ~may10 this year Well on may 11 I saw eggs & 1d & 2d larvae Said -5, may 6 started laying, just over 1 month, where did the drone come from? Or did it? The cappings will tell So looking again may12, to my suprize only eggs & 1d larvae At this point I had a brain lock, thought "I'll boost it" but failed the execution, I should have made them walk in So of course there are no new eggs, she was laying as well as she had warm, < 1frame eggs (3.5 part shallow) The next 3days the observation is same Diminishing eggs & 1d larvae, none older No QC from "this" brood, early QC is on imported frame (again from daughter, daughter is very slightly infected-STR) (The imported frame does not appear to have mortality) Imported frame has some older larvae, I'll check that it caps or dies I will inspect tomorrow, even in rain (forcast) I guess I won't get to see the cappings of this Q! Is it mortality or drone brood? Would they eat _every_ drone larvae? Does dying at 2d implicate the nurse bees? If the imported frame larvae cap implicates Q? (they were older larvae) Is this a symptom of X: absence of older larvae, (lots of eggs and young larvae present) and the same 2days later? I certainly regret killing that Q even if she was infected, as seems likely. Clearly no drones over-wintered, there must have been a few early ones I think I'll put new Q in but tape candy, only let her out when observations are done eg mortality, QC completion, more than 1 QC? Will she become infected?? Shortage of Q's in Ont -- suprize, suprize dave ****************************************************** * Full guidelines for BEE-L posting are at: * * http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm * ******************************************************