I'll try again. Hopefully it was a misunderstanding I am (bitterly) complaining ONLY to my fellow CCD sufferers NOTE WELL if you don't have ccd the following does not apply I'm a northern bk, I've only been looking hard for 3 weeks and found 4 major symptoms. Why am I the first?? Maybe I'm nuts or deluded but I think not Please, prove me wrong Syptoms in header only (if this post gets thru I'll fill them out) 1)hoppers 2)STR + family (of symptoms) above is acute, below chronic 3)emergent mortality 4)brood balence I know of no disease with only 1 symptom Its bee suggested that its KBV (thanks Bill) No, the adults all look normal And as I said before Since acetic is hard to find I wonder if SO2 would disenfect? Would certainly be cheaper dave ****************************************************** * Full guidelines for BEE-L posting are at: * * http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm * ******************************************************