Mitch Friedfeld: >I have to admit I am not "getting" the Grosse Fuge. How do you say >"unlistenable" in German? Sometimes it helps to watch the score. Even if you don't know how to read music, you can follow the rhythms and see the direction of the notes. In fact, I'd recommend that for all of the Beethoven quartets if a live performance isn't available. Watching the themes (or rhythmic motives) hop from line to line, combine, separate, jump around, will help to organize the music for you, especially in the Grosse Fugue. Dover scores are wonderful for this exercise. If there are those who don't know how to read rhythmic notation but wish they could, Google is a friend in need. Try this place, for instance: http://musictheoryresources.com/members/FA_rhythm.htm Mimi Ezust *********************************************** The CLASSICAL mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's HDMail High Deliverability Mailer for reliable, lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html