Sometimes this happens as mom forgets to swing baby further across her body to maintain an asymmetrical latch as the baby grows. I sometimes even see toddlers where everything is fixed by sliding the baby a little so the nipple presents to the philtrum (ridge under the nose) again. Otherwise, it could be a tongue-tie. Some babies improve and manage to breastfeed, and then when the lower central incisors come in, their sucking pattern causes damage to the underside of the tongue, or they are unable to keep the tongue over the teeth and hurt mom when their bite reflex is triggered. (The tongue over the gum/teeth inhibits the bite reflex). Catherine Watson Genna, IBCLC NYC *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET email list is powered by LISTSERV (R). There is only one LISTSERV. To learn more, visit: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html