Peter Detchon My question to the list... is a similar problem being experienced anywhere else...eg Canada, South America, Europe, New Zealand, China? It's not happening in Australia as far as I am aware. The only thing that sounds similar to me is Nosema ceranae in Spain. Best wishes Peter Edwards [log in to unmask] www.stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk/ -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---