It was not so long ago that I was introduced to this site and signed on. There were times that I was going to unsubscribe because of what was posted and on occasion seems to have dragged on for too long. A tremendous amount of useful information has flowed from topics that we as beekeepers/researchers have been able to make use of and shared through meaningful continued on line discussion and some of that discussion has truly exposed the lack of knowledge of some basics that one would have expected some to know especially among those who have been into this for years from the way they respond. A conscensus -- not really Well thoughtout healthy discussion/debate should be the order of the day. Then again it's up to the moderators what they allow . Walter Ontario -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---