Lloyd Spears said: Randy, you said "Just look at Jim Payson's video of nuc making (John Miller has a similar nuc assembly line)." Where can I see that video? JZ (Jim Payson) still sells it (I don't know if he's got it on DVD). The best commercial beekeeping video I've ever seen. It was before varroa. Go to: http://hometown.aol.com/jzsbzs/myhomepage/index.html Randy Oliver -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---