Nikki, I think you were lucky (as was the 17 yo patient)with the first scenario and maybe too pushy with the second one. There are people who do not want to breastfeed and I don't think it does our field any good to go pushing through. That's all. As you said, sometimes we will and sometimes we lose. However, if you look at those words, whose agenda are we pushing here?? I had the same kind of thing happen once. When I spoke in childbirth class about the differences between formula and breastmilk, one mother (who obviously felt guilty for her choice to formula feed) told my manager that I had said "formula is poison." Now I never said anything remotely close to that but that was her interpretation. Betsy Riedel RNC, IBCLC Connecticut *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html