lucy first thing i would think of is edema. does she have edema this time and has she been shown and tried RPS? then i would think of maybe some endocrine abberations like thyroid. did she lose much blood? is she anemic? did she take a depo shot (I know you said she's on no meds)? any herbs? is she diabetic or gestational diabetes (large baby)? if so, are her sugars normal now? Of course there is retained placenta as a known connection to lack of lactogenesis II. Let us know how it goes. Laurie Wheeler, IBCLC, MN, RN Mississippi, s.e. USA *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html