Elizabeth, There is also the work of French Obstetrician Michel Odent. His most recent book are: "The Cesarean" and "The Scientification of Love". For a list of his other articles (and there are many) www.birthworks.org/odent.html. You can also freely access the Primal Health Research Data Bank from there. There is a recent documentary in which David Chamberlain and Joseph Chilton Pierce are featured: What Babies Want: An Explosion of the Consciousness of Infants." by Debby Takikawa, narrated by Noah Wyle. It really is extraordinary. www.whatbabieswant.com <http://www.whatbabieswant.com/> . (I have no financial interest in this ) I met Debby at a private screening of this documentary in NYC and it was followed by a discussion. She was looking for feedback on it. All of us present felt it was inspirational and would be an extremely useful educational tool! Carmen Clark, LLLL, IBCLC Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 07:11:40 -0700 From: Elizabeth Howell <[log in to unmask]> Subject: perinatal psychology I just wanted to thank Jennifer for providing these great resources on perinatal psychology. I'm a LLLL and a fairly new one at that but it does provide me with a fairly wide sampling of what goes on in the local 5-10 hospitals. As a mother who helps other mothers learn to breastfeed it is hard to ignore how far things have gone awry due to everything that happens to these women and their babies in the hospital. Most of them are surprised and angry when they learn how thoroughly their breastfeeding relationship has been impacted by their birth experience. In any case I'm always grateful for a source that I can point mothers to, so they don't have to choose between listening to me or their HCP's. It's still important to meet these mothers where they are after the fact and help them meet whatever breastfeeding goals they have. I'm just glad to know all the evidence is there and it's not just my imagination. Sincerely, Elizabeth Howell, LLLL *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html