Great discussion, Diane and all. The single biggest thing I use to help moms with sore nipples, and the simplest, is to get the index finger OFF the lower areola so it is open for the baby. I have had such great results with this over the past 5 years, after I learned it from our dear Catherine W-G at a conference in Wisconsin. I tease moms a bit and say 'Most of us women do a good job holding the whole breast, but we only need to support the base of the breast, not the whole breast.' I want to praise her for her efforts, and show her a better way. Oh how I love lactation! I was born for this!!!! Thank you tons to Diane and all of you precious older women who have pioneered the trail for me! Susan in Minnesota *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html