The midwife saw the baby at 24h and baby had already lost 2oz. Parents said they called her more than once to say the baby wasn't stooling enough and was hungry at the breast, and the midwife did tell them to take the baby to a ped. The parents were reluctant to go to a ped for fear of having to vaccinate the baby (many offices around here are now refusing service to anyone not vaccinated), so they listened to "everyone else," who said they should relax and everything will be fine. I still don't know who "everyone else" would be -- I'm assuming well-meaning friends and family who just presume that because a baby is at the breast, milk is being transferred in sufficient quantities and everything automatically works. I wonder if there is any information in that midwife's notes about the mom's hirsutism I noted, as well as the lack of breast change. Do midwives take notes about breast growth throughout pregnancy? Debbie Gillespie, IBCLC *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html