> I am now back :) had to use a different email address to get it to work. From time to time, we hear vague comments from people saying they were reading BEE-L and have wanted to join a discussion, but have had trouble joining BEE-L or posting to BEE-L. We have not experienced such problems, personally, or been able to get details of what exactly happens, but rumour has it that difficulties joining or posting seem to plague, and thus discourage, at least a few people who would be participating here. It is a known fact that email addresses with some providers may not work with mailing lists like BEE-L, not because BEE-L rejects the email, but rather because the companies or institutions providing those addresses filter incoming email very strongly and throw out the LISTSERV responses. If so, you should know that you are losing a lot more than just BEE-L functionality when using filtered email. Very few messages sent to BEE-L are rejected by moderators, so, if you have a problem posting, rejection by moderators is not likely the reason. Besides -- especially if you are new to BEE-L -- and you have made a mistake, you'll likely get a note of explanation -- the first time, at least. So, if you are reading this and cannot somehow get messages to BEE-L, PLEASE write to [log in to unmask] and explain, as exactly as you can, what you do -- and what does or does not happen as a result. If you are not sure if you can post or not, you may send a test message to the list address, and the moderators will acknowledge that it arrived, but will not send it on to the list. Don't overdo this, please, but do it if you are in doubt. The management would love to have more people participate in discussion. Your trouble report messages -- sent to BEE-L with this subject line, or a test message -- will not go to the BEE-L list members, and will only be read by the list owner/mechanic/janitor/ and his co-workers, and may result in some improvements or suggestions. If you get no reply from the list address, then you may send the same message to [log in to unmask] , as a backup attempt, since it is in a different domain, on a different server.. If you are having troubles and decide to write, please mention if your difficulty is in using the web interface, or in sending email messages or commands to the LISTSERV. Provide as much detail as you can so we can figure out if there is a problem with the system, or advise a work-around. In summary: When problems arise, the first thing to try is writing from another email address; as mentioned in the quote above, the second is to ask for help. Thanks. -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---