Jim, your interpretation of sugar and honey in Chinese is correct. I have never heard of "honey of reed" in China (unless they show me the characters, then I can do research). "Mi" (honey) strictly refers to sugar collected by bees. Occasionally it is used to refer to things that are sweet as an adjective (e.g. mi-zhiao, honey-jujube to refer to a date that is sweet, or mi-gua, honey-melon to refer to something similar to cantaloupe). Word of caution: I have now been in NA longer than in China (21 vs. 22), but still I remember my Chinese, but I am by no means a linguist in Chinese :) Zach, www.beetography.com -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---