Bees bodies are fairly proportional... It's not far from true to say - big body - big wings, small wings - small body. Or? Big bodies demands bigger cellsize than small bodies. Right? Different bee races = different sizes. Why "put" big body in small cells and why putt small body i big cells? Bees should be kept i NATURALL size of cells. Right? When talking wing size: inner inner 6 fields lenght width AHB 4,349 1,944 4,735 BUCKFAST 4,553 2,084 5,346 CAPENSIS 4,517 2,106 5,306 CARNICA 4,587 2,139 5,519 CAUCASIA 4,526 2,100 5,313 CECROPIA 4,472 2,083 5,247 IBERIENSIS 4,474 1,998 5,000 LIGUSTICA 4,462 2,099 5,289 LITTOREA 4,091 1,885 4,302 MACEDONICA 4,466 2,075 5,194 MELLIFERA 4,548 2,073 5,277 MONTICOLA 4,236 1,934 4,619 SCUTELLATA 4,162 1,909 4,472 As I understand this figures, so carnica is much bigger than AHB. I can't understand why to use the arizona cell size for carnica. If you are curious what "inner length", "inner width" and "6 fields" means, go to: http://www.quicknet.se/home/q-119076/BONUS/1-bonus.html click on "Avel" and than click on "DAWINO". In the file "Factor description" you find the answer. \vov -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---