Well, the pps file is way to large (48.9 meg), so I am posting a pdf file instead (sorry no animation, but you get a rough idea, I can delete the first part about older cameras and concentration on skill but most people have point and shoot cameras...). Thanks to Aaron Morris for generating the small pdf file (mine was 188 meg!). the pdf file is at http://cyberbee.net/huangtalk/, you will need the "Acrobat Reader" to read it, which is free at www.adobe.com Off to feed my bees. Best, Zachary -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---