Hello Rip & All, I have printed this post off and will show to Sue Cobey when I pick her up at the KCI airport and drive her to the Kansas Honey Producers meeting in Hutchison, Kansas on Oct. 14th.. She will be giving several presentations. Will get her thoughts and either comment on BEE-L or to you direct Rip? Bob -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---