I tried the Playtex Embrace several days ago and could only use it twice as it was toe-curlingly painful. The mechanism seems a bit different than the Purely Yours I normally use -- my husband watched very closely and remarked that my nipples moved differently, as if the pump "grabbed" right behind them, around the areolae, and tugged that way. I normally use olive oil for lubrication but didn't try it with this pump. I didn't have the courage to use it again once I thought of that! My nipples themselves didn't look too bad afterwards except for some mild bruising on one side but my areolae were left very red; it resembled pinpoint petechiae. And this was with the suction at level 1 or 2, trying both single and double-pumping. One other perhaps more minor issue is that it might be more difficult to use a hands-free device of some kind when pumping, since the flanges were thick. They were also heavy, so that if they were attached to the bottles and there wasn't much milk in them, I was very afraid of barely touching them and sending them toppling right over. No battery pack either, so less convenient for travel. -Sarah *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html