Bob harrison said: "Dr. Harbo's findings that trying to find the varroa tolerant bee from simply breeding from the hive with the lowest mite count was doomed to failure also opened my eyes". Bob, i would appreciate knowing where you got the info that upholds the above statement. I am breeding as best i can for varroa resistance and have made definite progress.I do use queens that have low mite counts so the above statement is of special importance to me. thanks John Horton Greenbrier Honey farm Huntsville Alabama :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::