Hi, Pat: I, too, have been using the hamburger analogy for latch-on for many years now, but I TALK about the hamburger and use a cloth breast model to DEMONSTRATE as I am talking. The breast I use is (or was, it's 20 years old) from Childbirth Graphics and pre-dates the breasts that are currently available specifically for breastfeeding teaching. My breast is intended as a breast-self exam teaching tool - it has "lumps" (not visible) in different areas of the breast, including the nipple itself. The lump in the nipple helps the nipple maintain its shape better. So, as I ask the mother to think about what she does when she eats a hamburger, I demonstrate, using the breast. I think it helps her to visualize what the baby is actually doing on the breast. Demonstrating/teaching in this manner, almost always results in an AHA! moment for the parents. Pam Hirsch, RN,BSN,CLC Clinical Lead, Lactation Services Advocate Good Shepherd Hospital Barrington, IL USA *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html