Hello All, I am new to using this "Bee-L" network so forgive me if I am addressing something that has already been beaten into the dirt. I am sure you know of the Weavers in Texas. I went out and visited them a few years back and have been ordering queens form them now for a few years. When they claim they havent treated in 3+ years,. I flat believe them. I have recently read about others who have breeding successfully against varroa (Purvis?), and as for me , i have a queen who for three years has not had any type of treatment WHATSOEVER and shows no sign of any varroa infestation(less than 5%). I hope she makes it through the winter so I might do more grafting off of her. What is odd about this is that I had selected her as a breeding queen because of the high honey production,extreme gentleness,and low propolis or burr comb(non existent)...It was only on a lark so to speak that I didnt treat her hive..and as mite levels continued to be low(less than 5% brood infestation at any time of year) I continued not to treat. I plan on placing her progeny in a yard culled of "high count varroa hives"and saturated with some untreated Weaver hives to see where it goes from here. Isnt it exciting to think along the line of beekeping practices that require little or no treatment for varroa?My hope and desire is that that will be the case on a widespread basis in the not so distant future. Best wishes and God bless you John Horton :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::