Dann said: I am not including other extremely important factors such as different mite populations and micro-climates/environments which must be considered. I believe the inconsistent results among honest vocal beekeepers can be explained by these factors. I agree! But like we talked about in our last phone conversation Dann moving the program horizontal and upping the amount of hives involved to around a thousand and then select survivors should speed things up for you. It will be interesting to see if you can bridge a 100 year survivor process in a few years with your program but I believe you will! Due to my shoulder injury I will not be coming to see you next week ( but will as soon as able). I will call one evening next week. Keep me posted on the Georgia beekeepers project and give me a call if you need my help! Bob :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::