Milt, Before someone browsing Bee-L thinks they can use a shop-vac uninhibited by a screen or box, ANY(!) shop vac will quickly kill every bee you get ahold of. Pressure/speed from 1/4hp+ motors will rip legs, arms and simply squish fragile bees. Vacuums larger than a dustbuster offer zero hope of obtaining "live" bees without the help of something to reduce air-pressure once the bees are sucked into the vacuum hose. There's a bee-vac on www.beesource.com for free download which I would highly recommend to people removing bees or catching the occasional swarm off tree trunks or other spots too difficult to shake. Building the bee-vac would normally take a few days. If you're in a pinch and have a bit of imagination you could use the air-regulation principle and attach a vacuum to a couple 5 gallon buckets, one inside the other, with some sort of hole for pressure-regulation. Regards, Matthew Westall - E-Bees, Castle Rock, CO - USA -where we just had 8" of snow yesterday to help gaurantee our first spring flow -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Milt Lathan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: [BEE-L] Shop-vac for bee vacuum? > with another hive elsewhere. I noticed in the archives, at least one > person has used a shopvac as a bee-vac. If I can find a long enough > extension cord - I may try this next. Any tips? :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::